1 00:00:04,470 --> 00:00:01,990 uh it was so low 2 00:00:06,389 --> 00:00:04,480 you could see the oval shape of the uh 3 00:00:08,470 --> 00:00:06,399 of the object with a red light in front 4 00:00:10,549 --> 00:00:08,480 and a red light to the rear of it 5 00:00:11,589 --> 00:00:10,559 appeared to be cigar shaped maybe the 6 00:00:14,150 --> 00:00:11,599 size of an 7 00:00:15,509 --> 00:00:14,160 automobile 8 00:00:18,070 --> 00:00:15,519 from red light to red light there 9 00:00:20,070 --> 00:00:18,080 appeared to be illuminated white lights 10 00:00:21,429 --> 00:00:20,080 the the whole length of it 11 00:00:23,349 --> 00:00:21,439 i thought it was going to look in the 12 00:00:25,269 --> 00:00:23,359 window and see something extraordinary 13 00:00:26,950 --> 00:00:25,279 because we're that close 14 00:00:28,870 --> 00:00:26,960 i really didn't see anything inside 15 00:00:31,589 --> 00:00:28,880 there was no movement no objects 16 00:00:33,830 --> 00:00:31,599 whatever so it just sword and hubbard 17 00:00:35,830 --> 00:00:33,840 you know just just actually unbelievable 18 00:00:37,750 --> 00:00:35,840 almost seems like a dream really that's 19 00:00:40,310 --> 00:00:37,760 what we did see it seemed like a dream 20 00:00:45,590 --> 00:00:42,950 it soared over this direction across 21 00:00:47,190 --> 00:00:45,600 there and over this tree line and later 22 00:00:48,950 --> 00:00:47,200 that night i think was within a half an 23 00:00:51,189 --> 00:00:48,960 hour or less there were several 24 00:00:53,350 --> 00:00:51,199 sightings in mansfield of uh 25 00:00:56,069 --> 00:00:53,360 similar type description the flying 26 00:00:58,950 --> 00:00:56,079 saucer came from that direction 27 00:01:00,790 --> 00:00:58,960 came across stayed out there a while 28 00:01:03,910 --> 00:01:00,800 and it came back it hold it over here 29 00:01:05,990 --> 00:01:03,920 and it took off in that direction 30 00:01:07,750 --> 00:01:06,000 and to my estimation it looked like a 31 00:01:09,350 --> 00:01:07,760 you know a football it had flashing 32 00:01:10,469 --> 00:01:09,360 lights all the lights going around in a 33 00:01:13,190 --> 00:01:10,479 circle 34 00:01:14,469 --> 00:01:13,200 around the area of it and uh 35 00:01:16,070 --> 00:01:14,479 just say you know it looked like a 36 00:01:18,550 --> 00:01:16,080 football in me with a whole mess of 37 00:01:20,870 --> 00:01:18,560 flashing lights 38 00:01:24,149 --> 00:01:20,880 these were white windows it appeared to 39 00:01:29,350 --> 00:01:26,710 this was all white lights this is what 40 00:01:31,590 --> 00:01:29,360 the chief and i were trying to look in 41 00:01:33,510 --> 00:01:31,600 to see if we could see anything but that 42 00:01:36,069 --> 00:01:33,520 give you i'm not a good artist but that 43 00:01:37,749 --> 00:01:36,079 rough idea there were cars moving up and 44 00:01:39,510 --> 00:01:37,759 down the street 45 00:01:41,830 --> 00:01:39,520 as a past 46 00:01:43,030 --> 00:01:41,840 from that tree line in a westerly 47 00:01:45,109 --> 00:01:43,040 direction 48 00:01:46,950 --> 00:01:45,119 it blocked out several of the cars and 49 00:01:49,590 --> 00:01:46,960 as it moved the cars appeared again 50 00:01:51,830 --> 00:01:49,600 underneath it which proved to me that we 51 00:01:53,429 --> 00:01:51,840 were looking at a solid object 52 00:01:54,389 --> 00:01:53,439 it either was 53 00:01:57,429 --> 00:01:54,399 round 54 00:02:00,069 --> 00:01:57,439 or as it appeared to be then football 55 00:02:01,990 --> 00:02:00,079 shape and it was no higher 56 00:02:05,270 --> 00:02:02,000 and no further away than those fear 57 00:02:08,070 --> 00:02:05,280 trees from us as we walked towards it 58 00:02:09,990 --> 00:02:08,080 none of you had seen any aliens is that 59 00:02:12,229 --> 00:02:10,000 right 60 00:02:14,070 --> 00:02:12,239 and uh what is your own personal theory 61 00:02:15,750 --> 00:02:14,080 we'll go down the line here what your 62 00:02:17,030 --> 00:02:15,760 personal theory is about this what it 63 00:02:19,030 --> 00:02:17,040 actually was where it might have been 64 00:02:20,309 --> 00:02:19,040 from you have any idea have you harbored 65 00:02:21,510 --> 00:02:20,319 any theories over the years or what it 66 00:02:23,190 --> 00:02:21,520 might have been 67 00:02:25,270 --> 00:02:23,200 well 68 00:02:27,190 --> 00:02:25,280 to myself i would say uh 69 00:02:29,030 --> 00:02:27,200 i saw it i left here 70 00:02:30,630 --> 00:02:29,040 i spoke with the uh 71 00:02:31,430 --> 00:02:30,640 air force was it the air force that came 72 00:02:32,869 --> 00:02:31,440 down 73 00:02:34,710 --> 00:02:32,879 and after that i just put it right out 74 00:02:36,070 --> 00:02:34,720 of my mind you kind of blocked it out 75 00:02:37,270 --> 00:02:36,080 blocked it right off you didn't want to 76 00:02:38,470 --> 00:02:37,280 think about it or you just forgot about 77 00:02:40,710 --> 00:02:38,480 it because it was just another one i 78 00:02:41,750 --> 00:02:40,720 have any more to do with it to be honest 79 00:02:44,630 --> 00:02:41,760 with you 80 00:02:48,390 --> 00:02:44,640 i figured what i saw i told them what i 81 00:02:50,390 --> 00:02:48,400 saw and that was enough for me i uh 82 00:02:52,470 --> 00:02:50,400 it was an experience in itself and i 83 00:02:53,990 --> 00:02:52,480 didn't want to go any further with it 84 00:02:55,910 --> 00:02:54,000 how about yourself chief any personal 85 00:02:58,390 --> 00:02:55,920 theories well it was something unique 86 00:03:00,149 --> 00:02:58,400 that's for sure and uh you know it could 87 00:03:03,110 --> 00:03:00,159 have been something that the the country 88 00:03:04,309 --> 00:03:03,120 has it doesn't care to discuss or reveal 89 00:03:06,070 --> 00:03:04,319 and 90 00:03:07,430 --> 00:03:06,080 or it could have been something 91 00:03:09,830 --> 00:03:07,440 from another planet 92 00:03:12,149 --> 00:03:09,840 either one it had to be one or the other 93 00:03:13,830 --> 00:03:12,159 you would say i might add that 94 00:03:15,990 --> 00:03:13,840 it was during this particular period of 95 00:03:16,830 --> 00:03:16,000 time that 96 00:03:19,670 --> 00:03:16,840 several 97 00:03:22,710 --> 00:03:19,680 sightings were made of similar objects 98 00:03:24,869 --> 00:03:22,720 the one that i recall vividly was the 99 00:03:26,789 --> 00:03:24,879 one in new hampshire and a great deal of 100 00:03:30,149 --> 00:03:26,799 credence was plus placed in that 101 00:03:32,070 --> 00:03:30,159 sighting as was this you know we have 102 00:03:33,270 --> 00:03:32,080 four i think responsible people here who 103 00:03:34,630 --> 00:03:33,280 saw something 104 00:03:36,070 --> 00:03:34,640 shortly after 105 00:03:38,789 --> 00:03:36,080 this sighting i think was a couple of 106 00:03:41,830 --> 00:03:38,799 weeks look magazine did a profile on on 107 00:03:42,949 --> 00:03:41,840 the happening in new hampshire where uh 108 00:03:45,430 --> 00:03:42,959 the 109 00:03:47,350 --> 00:03:45,440 married couple was supposedly taken onto 110 00:03:50,630 --> 00:03:47,360 their ship and 111 00:03:53,429 --> 00:03:50,640 given physicals on board 112 00:03:55,670 --> 00:03:53,439 the object whatever it was they seen and 113 00:03:58,789 --> 00:03:55,680 i was working a four to twelve fill in 114 00:04:01,190 --> 00:03:58,799 shift it was maybe 10 o'clock at night 115 00:04:03,830 --> 00:04:01,200 at the police station 116 00:04:05,429 --> 00:04:03,840 i was really into the article and 117 00:04:07,030 --> 00:04:05,439 i think at that time 118 00:04:08,630 --> 00:04:07,040 my concentration was so much on the 119 00:04:10,070 --> 00:04:08,640 article the door opened the police 120 00:04:12,309 --> 00:04:10,080 station and 121 00:04:14,470 --> 00:04:12,319 i i think i felt like i hit my head on 122 00:04:16,789 --> 00:04:14,480 the ceiling my feet don't ever touch the 123 00:04:20,390 --> 00:04:16,799 floor so it just startled me so it's 124 00:04:21,990 --> 00:04:20,400 just kind of a strange experience 125 00:04:23,990 --> 00:04:22,000 did you feel as if 126 00:04:25,030 --> 00:04:24,000 you know anything like that might have 127 00:04:27,590 --> 00:04:25,040 happened 128 00:04:30,070 --> 00:04:27,600 that you're unaware of that you were 129 00:04:32,950 --> 00:04:30,080 no it just seemed strange that we never 130 00:04:35,430 --> 00:04:32,960 made more of it that uh like i said 131 00:04:37,110 --> 00:04:35,440 a bus smash up or something you'd 132 00:04:39,030 --> 00:04:37,120 you'd say holy smoke what's happening 133 00:04:40,390 --> 00:04:39,040 and why why and then probably talk a lot 134 00:04:42,950 --> 00:04:40,400 about it this thing here just seemed to 135 00:04:44,790 --> 00:04:42,960 go away by itself and i've often 136 00:04:47,909 --> 00:04:44,800 wondered why we didn't discuss it a lot 137 00:04:49,430 --> 00:04:47,919 more or think a lot more of it 138 00:04:52,950 --> 00:04:49,440 how can we correlate this information 139 00:04:55,430 --> 00:04:52,960 how do we know what we're being told 140 00:04:57,909 --> 00:04:55,440 we probably don't right we only they 141 00:04:59,990 --> 00:04:57,919 only reveal what they want to reveal and 142 00:05:01,749 --> 00:05:00,000 again you know it's a it had to be one 143 00:05:03,749 --> 00:05:01,759 of the other as well i'm saying it had 144 00:05:05,749 --> 00:05:03,759 to be something that we had that was 145 00:05:07,270 --> 00:05:05,759 they didn't care to reveal what it was 146 00:05:08,790 --> 00:05:07,280 or 147 00:05:10,469 --> 00:05:08,800 something from outer space the 148 00:05:12,070 --> 00:05:10,479 government didn't cut us in on any 149 00:05:14,150 --> 00:05:12,080 information the air force didn't 150 00:05:15,670 --> 00:05:14,160 communicate with us is as to what they 151 00:05:17,590 --> 00:05:15,680 did or didn't find 152 00:05:19,830 --> 00:05:17,600 nightcap came out and made the 153 00:05:21,510 --> 00:05:19,840 investigation took the radiation 154 00:05:22,870 --> 00:05:21,520 readings in the field 155 00:05:24,790 --> 00:05:22,880 so they did make an intensive 156 00:05:27,110 --> 00:05:24,800 investigation of the scene remained in 157 00:05:28,870 --> 00:05:27,120 the area for three days 158 00:05:31,670 --> 00:05:28,880 matter of fact mr fowler wrote a book 159 00:05:33,749 --> 00:05:31,680 and included this in his book 160 00:05:34,790 --> 00:05:33,759 i think i mistakenly said before that 161 00:05:39,189 --> 00:05:34,800 the 162 00:05:40,870 --> 00:05:39,199 really that 163 00:05:44,230 --> 00:05:40,880 did you notice any um 164 00:05:46,790 --> 00:05:44,240 electromagnetic effects any radiation uh 165 00:05:48,870 --> 00:05:46,800 effects after in the area 166 00:05:51,590 --> 00:05:48,880 what what we did that night was notified 167 00:05:54,629 --> 00:05:51,600 through officer jones's urgings uh he 168 00:05:55,990 --> 00:05:54,639 notified otis air force base and 169 00:05:58,629 --> 00:05:56,000 on the cape 170 00:06:01,590 --> 00:05:58,639 who the following day uh 171 00:06:03,749 --> 00:06:01,600 brought here or flew over here a radar 172 00:06:05,670 --> 00:06:03,759 plane that circled this particular area 173 00:06:08,710 --> 00:06:05,680 for uh 174 00:06:11,670 --> 00:06:08,720 uh quite a period of time 175 00:06:15,189 --> 00:06:11,680 my understanding was that they did 176 00:06:18,790 --> 00:06:15,199 find radiation readings in the field 177 00:06:21,350 --> 00:06:18,800 that were above normal 178 00:06:23,909 --> 00:06:21,360 and uh they did flyovers to do that we 179 00:06:26,150 --> 00:06:23,919 had a radar plane flying over the uh 180 00:06:28,790 --> 00:06:26,160 area here for most of the following 181 00:06:31,189 --> 00:06:28,800 morning the uh government authorities 182 00:06:32,550 --> 00:06:31,199 came in and uh said that the further 183 00:06:34,550 --> 00:06:32,560 incidents on this 184 00:06:36,150 --> 00:06:34,560 uh this of this nature 185 00:06:37,510 --> 00:06:36,160 would have to be included in a separate 186 00:06:39,830 --> 00:06:37,520 police plotter 187 00:06:42,150 --> 00:06:39,840 uh i'm unaware of that the chief at that 188 00:06:43,430 --> 00:06:42,160 time suggested that we keep a separate 189 00:06:46,230 --> 00:06:43,440 bladder 190 00:06:48,629 --> 00:06:46,240 for all incoming calls on ufo calls 191 00:06:51,189 --> 00:06:48,639 because we did receive uh many curious 192 00:06:53,029 --> 00:06:51,199 calls and also people saying they had 193 00:06:55,029 --> 00:06:53,039 seen sightings would have it wasn't due 194 00:06:56,870 --> 00:06:55,039 to the government uh saying i'm unaware 195 00:06:57,830 --> 00:06:56,880 but it could have happened 196 00:06:59,430 --> 00:06:57,840 and 197 00:07:01,990 --> 00:06:59,440 did the government say anything in terms 198 00:07:03,670 --> 00:07:02,000 of you know don't don't publicize this 199 00:07:06,150 --> 00:07:03,680 again i'm unaware of that i wasn't the 200 00:07:08,629 --> 00:07:06,160 chief at the time and the perhaps it was 201 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:08,639 said to the my predecessor it wasn't 202 00:07:13,270 --> 00:07:09,919 said to me 203 00:07:18,230 --> 00:07:15,909 i would know on that the is 204 00:07:20,469 --> 00:07:18,240 correct on that someone on walmart 205 00:07:21,830 --> 00:07:20,479 street also saw it uh that night can you 206 00:07:23,510 --> 00:07:21,840 tell me about that do you remember that 207 00:07:26,070 --> 00:07:23,520 uh there were several other sightings 208 00:07:27,990 --> 00:07:26,080 that night uh by people in in sharon 209 00:07:29,670 --> 00:07:28,000 that had seen it i guess at a greater 210 00:07:31,270 --> 00:07:29,680 distance and we had seen it here but 211 00:07:32,790 --> 00:07:31,280 they had seen it 212 00:07:34,870 --> 00:07:32,800 uh wasn't it the previous night or 213 00:07:35,990 --> 00:07:34,880 something someone said the uh 214 00:07:37,990 --> 00:07:36,000 yeah 215 00:07:39,270 --> 00:07:38,000 also on walmart park street there were 216 00:07:41,270 --> 00:07:39,280 other sightings over the years do you 217 00:07:43,350 --> 00:07:41,280 recall any 218 00:07:45,589 --> 00:07:43,360 again so many things that went on after 219 00:07:47,670 --> 00:07:45,599 that we heard and read so much i'm not 220 00:07:49,830 --> 00:07:47,680 clear on on who's seen whether there 221 00:07:52,230 --> 00:07:49,840 were several other people that did say 222 00:07:53,909 --> 00:07:52,240 they had sightings and sharon at various 223 00:07:56,070 --> 00:07:53,919 times that right 224 00:07:58,390 --> 00:07:56,080 raymond fowler actually saw something in 225 00:07:59,189 --> 00:07:58,400 beverly let me just ask you one question 226 00:08:01,670 --> 00:07:59,199 though 227 00:08:02,869 --> 00:08:01,680 you have questions did we really see it 228 00:08:04,869 --> 00:08:02,879 right 229 00:08:07,830 --> 00:08:04,879 okay as long as we started that was the 230 00:08:09,749 --> 00:08:07,840 main thing i think uh 231 00:08:11,830 --> 00:08:09,759 both of these both of these guys retired 232 00:08:13,749 --> 00:08:11,840 now i want you to know 233 00:08:15,270 --> 00:08:13,759 i think jimmy will agree with me we kid 234 00:08:16,150 --> 00:08:15,280 each other a lot 235 00:08:18,629 --> 00:08:16,160 but 236 00:08:21,110 --> 00:08:18,639 it's criticism on the side we all 237 00:08:24,070 --> 00:08:21,120 discussed it among ourselves 238 00:08:28,469 --> 00:08:24,080 and as chief said i read every article i 239 00:08:30,710 --> 00:08:28,479 could find on it if seen by chiefs 240 00:08:33,829 --> 00:08:30,720 deputy sheriff sheriffs 241 00:08:36,230 --> 00:08:33,839 their vehicles have been disabled 242 00:08:37,589 --> 00:08:36,240 but it's pretty hard to discuss them